In The Nine to Five with Stacey Dooley on BBC iPlayer, Stacey takes five school leavers into four different industries that are crying out for young workers. They each get to spend two days doing the ultimate work experience. If the teens do well in the jobs they are given, Stacey rewards them with the national apprenticeship wage at the end of each day. But she also deducts money for poor performance, and so those who don’t make the grade can come away empty handed.
Here, Stacey talks about the challenges of work experience for 17-year-old Louisa who had no desire to join the rank and file of ordinary workers, she wanted to be fast-tracked to be the boss.
Shout out to myself
Across my time on The Nine to Five, I have been lucky enough to meet some truly inspiring bosses, some have started their own businesses, others have been brought in as managers. All of them share one standout quality - from head chefs to care home managers, builders and zookeepers – it’s their passion for, and understanding of the business they run. One of the hallmarks of a great employer is someone who has walked a mile in their workers’ shoes.
One of our teenagers in this series, Louisa, was very accomplished and confident and she began her work experience wanting to be the boss from the start. That is a very big ask for anyone! When I took Louisa to one of the UK’s leading salad growers, which supplies many of the country’s major supermarkets, it was a bit of a shock to the system when she was asked to do tasks that she initially thought were beneath her.
One of the hallmarks of a great employer is someone who has walked a mile in their workers’ shoes.
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I have nothing but respect for Louisa’s ambitions - go on girl! - but she had her eye so focused on her goal of being an employer that she couldn’t see the point in being an employee.
She questioned why she should have to do anything that didn’t take her fancy and rushed through a lot of the tasks she was given because she didn’t see the point in getting to grips with the detail of them.
As someone who already had a part–time cleaning job to support her studies, Louisa’s attitude was a big surprise and massively let her down during her work experience. So when Vince, the salad farm boss, saw from afar that Louisa and her teammate Kieran were ignoring their actual jobs in the cucumber greenhouses and racing each other through the aisles of plants on trolleys, he was shocked.
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Louisa: My name is Louisa. I'm seventeen and I'm from Essex. Right now, who looks like it's doing better?
Louis: Louisa. Stop.
Louisa: I would love to run my own business one day, and I can't deny that I do love money. That is good. We are making profit. Not just profit. Prof-it.The rejection is real right now. During my time on The Nine to Five, I learnt a lot of key things that have made me rethink on how I would run my business one day. Is this our first sale? Or have we sold something already?
Vince: So far, it's our first sale.
Louisa: Yes. We got our first sale.
Sharif: Louisa, Louisa. Let's go. Let's go.
Louisa: I really had to learn the hard way, and I was thrown into jobs that I never dreamt of ever doing. This is just not my type of thing, but I better be burning a lot of calories. So I was very quick on making up my mind if I liked the job or not, and if I didn't I was quick to discard it. No that's cheating.
Stacey: Louisa's always said, you know I'm desperate to be an employer, right. I don't want to be an employee.
Louisa: Oh this is so fun.
Stacey: But she's allowed herself to be swayed very easily.
Louisa: So it was fun, but if I did see my staff acting like this, I probably wouldn't tolerate it. I'm just a bit bored because I know the potential I could have.
Vince: You need to start from the bottom and work your way up.
Louisa: But my hard work has to be put in, in something that is more awarding.
Stacey: You're being a bit short sighted in this situation.
Louisa: I had all the ambition, but I was not exactly going about things the right way. Even the best bosses have started from the bottom, and there's a lot of value to that.
Louisa: I wouldn't mind going into an industry that I don't like, that pays well.
Vince: Don't make money be your main motivator. Having the opportunity, and when you get that opportunity it's up to you to push that door wide open.
Louisa: I love this mindset. So I now know you can't just side step into the CEO role, and I'm willing and I'm not scared of doing all the work I have to do to become one.
Ashley: After your apprenticeship you can earn over a hundred grand a year just from doing plumbing, heating. So if you put the hours in, the sky is the absolute limit for you guys.
Louisa: On paper, the plumbing job was not really for me, but with my new mindset I really did give it a go but I'm not going to lie, the hundred k did kind of entice me. I'm not going to brag, but that's quite neat.
Phoebe: Definitely a ten. Really good.
Stacey: Can I just say Louisa, I am loving your energy today.
Louisa: So I was so surprised on how hands on I was with the blow torch and putting the pipes together, and I was really enjoying that I was learning a new skill. That is very far from a pretty job, but I'm willing to do it. I really wanted to prove to myself that I could do it.
Ashley: Louisa, I would personally like to offer you an apprenticeship as well.
Louisa: You're going to make me blush. The fact that they saw potential in me was so meaningful, and I was awarded with an apprenticeship but it really showed me that hard work can take you really far. Three things I've learnt from this experience is one, don't let money be your only motivator. Two, know that you will have to start from the bottom before you can grow to the top, and three, don't run before you can walk.
Building from the bottom
Vince started the business with his brother, and they had painstakingly turned a one acre salad farm into thirty-two acres of high tech glasshouses. The only race he’d taken part in was picking as many market-ready vegetables as he could to make a profit and help the business to thrive. He was taken aback when he met Louisa who was talking the talk about wanting to be an employer, but acting like she thought she was too good for the work she was being asked to do.
So he sat her down and gave her some much-needed personal advice….There’s a reason people say, “Don’t run before you can walk!” If you hurtle forward before you are ready, you’re in danger of stumbling and making mistakes. Worse still, you earn yourself the reputation for being unreliable or uninterested. Actions speak louder than words in the workplace.

Take your time
Telling your boss you can’t be bothered to do a job because you already know how to do it is underestimating your capacity to learn and gain new knowledge. Give things a go. Take. Your. Time. Get to grips with what is being asked of you and pay attention. Doing a slapdash job is worse than not doing it at all.
Also be big enough to take any help offered to you by your teammates. An old friend told me that to get the best out of work, always assume your colleagues know something you don’t. Your mentors and peers aren’t offering you guidance for the good of their health - they do it to enable you to be the best you can be. A supportive team can help you climb up the ladder way more quickly than you can by yourself, especially if you walked in assuming you knew everything and were being dismissive of the tasks you were given.


Louisa listened intently to Vince and her teammates and it was a turning point for her. She thought about all the places she had been working in and spotted a pattern. Across the various industries, she saw that those who got their head down and showed dedication and an eagerness to learn, were the first to be recognised and rewarded by their boss. It was a lesson that became increasing clear to her as her work experience went on, and one she won’t forget.
Louisa saw that being a boss doesn’t mean sitting in a swanky office and watching the clouds roll by. They are continually assessing and reassessing what is working and what isn’t, what is making a business grow and what is holding it back. Then they act on those judgments to make things better and to build an increasingly successful business for them and their workers.


In today’s instant age, we are far too used to immediate gratification. If you want something, it’s probably already been delivered and dropped off at your doorstep five minutes ago. But there is no such thing as a delivery career! Acquiring the skills to lead a business takes time and effort - an investment that everyone can make and then see where that takes them. Master the basics, concentrate on the step in front of you and the money and status will take care of itself. Louisa talked openly about being motivated by money and Vince told her that getting the job done well is the first step on that road.
At the end of the day, building to boss level takes time and patience. Bosses become wise through perseverance and application. But do remember - even bosses don’t know everything! They’re human too and part of being human on this beautiful planet is that there is always something to learn.
Most people start their career from the bottom rung of the ladder. Like Jack looking up at the peak of the beanstalk that seems to rise to the eternal heavens, the climb might seem momentous at first. You may want someone to forklift you to the penthouse level, but there are lots of reasons you should see value in the climb.


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